EllisLab text mark
Advanced Search
     
FUEL CMS vs PYRO CMS ?
Posted: 29 August 2012 08:41 PM
Avatar
Joined: 2011-08-08
536 posts

Which is better?

What are the pros and cons of each?

Thanks in advanced.

 Signature 

Stick with it, practice it and have fun with it.

 
Posted: 29 August 2012 09:12 PM   [ # 1 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2010-03-21
11 posts

Fuel is a php framework.

Pyro is a CMS built on top of CI.

So your question is moot. You are not comparing apples with apples.

 
Posted: 30 August 2012 02:15 AM   [ # 2 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2011-08-08
536 posts

@bluemonsta

I think you are wrong,
check this out,
http://www.getfuelcms.com/

 Signature 

Stick with it, practice it and have fun with it.

 
Posted: 30 August 2012 11:39 AM   [ # 3 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Joined: 2012-07-16
19 posts

FUELCMS is, wait for it, a CMS. Go figure.

I tried to work with Fuel but havent tried Pyro

My initial thoughts were Fuel is great and full featured but really adds a lot of complexity on top of a current CI install or app for someone like myself that is still new to CI - it also includes a templating engine, or so I thought, which I did want, since I already coded my own templates


Would love to hear other views and thoughts comparing 2.

 
Posted: 30 August 2012 12:29 PM   [ # 4 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2007-06-11
2987 posts

Easy to clear this one up:

FuelPHP is a Framework.

FuelCMS is a CMS.

PyroCMS is another CMS.

FuelPHP and PyroCMS happen to be built by some of the same people (myself included).

FuelCMS aims to be a good starting point for your applications but is rarely something you could outright give to your end clients without a lot of phone calls.

PyroCMS can be a base for your applications, but is also very user friendly and is able to look after an entire site. It also has a larger community, meaning more addons are available.

Try them both and see which works for you!

 Signature 

————————
Blog | Twitter | GitHub | BitBucket
————————-
PyroCMS - open source modular CMS built with CodeIgniter
PancakeApp - Simple, hosted invoicing/w project management

 
Posted: 30 August 2012 10:30 PM   [ # 5 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2011-08-08
536 posts

@phil

Why you guys need to build another framework (FuelPHP)?
What’s lacking with CodeIgniter?

thanks

 Signature 

Stick with it, practice it and have fun with it.

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 04:04 AM   [ # 6 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2007-06-11
2987 posts
solid9 - 30 August 2012 10:30 PM

@phil

Why you guys need to build another framework (FuelPHP)?
What’s lacking with CodeIgniter?

thanks

Why does Zend exist? Or Symfony, or Yii, or Laravel, or CakePHP? Why does Ruby or Python exist?

Why doesn’t everyone use CodeIgniter and PHP for everything?!

Options.

Different tools are good for different things, and CodeIgniter is not good at everything. CI is not built specifically for PHP 5.3 and so does not have namespaces. It also lacks proper HMVC out of the box and the addon available is a rough hack. That doesnt make CI bad, it just means I am grateful to have another option where those things are available.

 Signature 

————————
Blog | Twitter | GitHub | BitBucket
————————-
PyroCMS - open source modular CMS built with CodeIgniter
PancakeApp - Simple, hosted invoicing/w project management

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 07:03 AM   [ # 7 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2011-08-08
536 posts

@phil

I’m very glad you replied.
Do you have plans to put additional features that other framework has?
Because learning another framework is tiring and consume time.
When are you going to put HMVC officially for CodeIgniter.
And also support the latest PHP version for CodeIgniter


Thanks again phil.

 

 

 Signature 

Stick with it, practice it and have fun with it.

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 07:07 AM   [ # 8 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2007-06-11
2987 posts

Whilst building FuelPHP 1.0 (I did not have much input after that) I was constantly porting features backwards and forwards between the two as they both shared a lot of code. The Migrations system in CI? You can thank FuelPHP for that.

As for recoding CodeIgniter to use PHP 5.3 architecture from the ground up? That’s not my job. The scope of the changes I make to CI (or that I review on GitHub) are to stay small and backwards compatible. That is my role here.

 Signature 

————————
Blog | Twitter | GitHub | BitBucket
————————-
PyroCMS - open source modular CMS built with CodeIgniter
PancakeApp - Simple, hosted invoicing/w project management

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 07:11 AM   [ # 9 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2011-08-08
536 posts

@phil

Can’t we just make CodeIgniter “The best of The best” framework out there?
So no one needs to switch to another framework.
I’m sure all programmers want this feature phil.

Is there anything we can do to improve CodeIgniter features and functionality?
Is there anything we can do to contribute to help codeIgniter, And make it The best framework out there?

Can we just make CodeIgniter the Multi Purpose Army Knife?


 Signature 

Stick with it, practice it and have fun with it.

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 07:16 AM   [ # 10 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2007-06-11
2987 posts

Different tools are good for different jobs. You’ll need to learn that, and you’ll need to learn that sometimes a different framework is better for a different job.

For starters you have full-stack frameworks and micro-frameworks. You have frameworks that use the latest PHP 5.4 bleeding edge features and frameworks that hang back and support the lowest common features. CodeIgniter is perfect for building distributed applications (like PyroCMS, Pancake, ExpressionEngine, MojoMotor, etc). To recode it to use PHP 5.3 would not only break THOSE applications (the sources of income for myself, a few friends, and EllisLab) but would also break every single CodeIgniter application out there. Why do that?!

If you want awesome new PHP 5.3 features then as I see it you’ll need to learn a PHP 5.3 framework. Your requirements no longer match the goals of this framework, and that is ok smile

 Signature 

————————
Blog | Twitter | GitHub | BitBucket
————————-
PyroCMS - open source modular CMS built with CodeIgniter
PancakeApp - Simple, hosted invoicing/w project management

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 07:21 AM   [ # 11 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2011-08-08
536 posts

Okay thanks for the input phil.
I do really appreciate it.

Thanks again.

 Signature 

Stick with it, practice it and have fun with it.

 
Posted: 31 August 2012 05:00 PM   [ # 12 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Avatar
Joined: 2007-11-28
2435 posts

Anyone is welcomed to contribute ideas and code to CodeIgniter through the Github repo.

 
Posted: 12 November 2012 09:03 AM   [ # 13 ]   [ Rating: 0 ]
Joined: 2012-11-12
1 posts

i personaly prefer Fuel CMS
LinkedIn Fuel-CMS group has been deployed.